Jamie Foxx has an Oscar, a Golden Globe, two Grammys, hit TV shows, sellout comedy tours and a successful producing career.
Michael B Jordan is one of Hollywood's most in-demand actors with starring roles in Black Panther, Creed and Fruitvale Station.
With fame, fortune and success some might presume Foxx, 52, and Jordan, 32, do not have a care in the world.
"There is a caution, there is a fear, there is an understanding that you may or may not make it home," Jordan says.
"That's just a fact."
Foxx and Jordan are sitting in a Manhattan hotel suite overlooking a magnificent Central Park to discuss their new film, Just Mercy.
The conversation has turned to whether fame and success has shielded them from racism in the US, particularly when they are in everyday situations or come in contact with law enforcement.
That is when Jordan opened up about his fears of not making it home.
They are feelings, he says, African Americans and Latinos experience when they are pulled over by the police in the US, whether famous or not.
"There's a thing called contempt of cop, where they're stopping you for something simple, but they want to escalate," Foxx adds.
Just Mercy is based on a true, harrowing story of injustice.
Foxx plays Walter McMillian, an Alabama father wrongly convicted of an 18-year-old girl's 1986 murder and sentenced to death.
The film starts with McMillian driving along an Alabama road and encountering a sheriff's roadblock.
He is arrested at gunpoint.
Jordan portrays Bryan Stevenson, a Harvard law graduate who shunned a high-paying legal career at elite firms to move to Alabama and focus on helping minorities and the poor mistreated by the criminal justice system.
Stevenson's heroic legal work has saved dozens of inmates from death row and one of his notable clients was McMillian.
Foxx, the 2015 best actor Oscar and Golden Globe winner for Ray, recalls a conversation he had with one of America's "biggest" and most "inspirational" leaders.
Foxx will not say who it is, although he leaves plenty of clues.
"He whispered something in my ear one time that blew my mind," Foxx said.
"He said you're still a ... not so nice word. You are still THAT. I shook my head and said, 'What do you mean?'
"His photographer at the time was like, 'What he means is no matter what you do, there will be certain people in this country who will never see you as anything else. They don't care how much money you got in your pocket'.
"That's why it's necessary for stories like Just Mercy. It allows us to all come together in the most human way to talk about something that needs to change."
Just Mercy opens in Australia on January 23.
Australian Associated Press